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tl
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 Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2023 5:13 pm Post subject: goodbye directv |
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as many of you are probably aware, this week directv started shutting down the VA bytes for the HU card.
the only access card you could now use to receive directv programming is the P4/D1. currently there is no public hack (or any hack at all for that matter) for the P4 card.
it is estimated that more than 1 million canadians are using american dishes to receive additional programming on top of what they purchase from bell expressvu or their cable company. |
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Bell-boy
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| Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2023 9:36 am Post subject: A Deal with the Devil for you! |
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Rogers converts DirecTV pirates
But generous offer to 'dark side' could alienate subscribers
Paul Brent
Financial Post
April 22, 2023
For years now, Canada's cable and satellite companies have been trying to shut down the hundreds of thousands of households that illegally receive U.S. satellite signals. Thanks to a long-awaited hardware and software upgrade at U.S. broadcaster DirecTV Group Inc., those unauthorized receivers have gone dark.
It's good news for our homegrown television business, industry boosters say, because those estimated 750,000 households that have opted out of the system have deprived independent TV producers of $400-million annually in money that would have otherwise been pumped into the system.
It also provides an opening for cable and satellite operators to convert those household from the "dark side." No operator has shown more zeal for conversion than Rogers Cable. Upon hearing from panicked Directv subscribers over the weekend that their systems were going offline, Rogers crafted a response.
The country's largest cable operator, with about 2.8 million subscribers, Rogers yesterday began a radio advertising campaign to convince these satellite users that now is the time to turn in their "dead" dishes and sign up for digital cable.
Rogers' special offer to those who have been taking in illegal satellite signals might surprise those loyal Rogers customers who have been dutifully paying for digital signals and either rent a box or purchased their own.
In exchange for their now-useless satellite gear, unplugged DirecTV subscribers are being offered free installation and two free digital boxes. And Rogers promises "to install these customers within 24 hours of their order to ensure that they will not miss their favourite television programs such as the hit series The Sopranos, or playoff sports or movies," Rogers said yesterday in a release.
Talk about rewarding bad behaviour, not to mention potentially offending your loyal cable customers, who probably were not offered two free digital boxes.
"I'm pissed too," said one broadcast executive yesterday, who pays full freight for top-drawer cable service.
Toronto-based Rogers Cable, for its part, makes no apologies for its incentive-laden pitch to the satellite black market and said it does not expect many complaints from their current base of digital subscribers. "We don't get as many of those complaints as you might think. It is more a question of what is the value for what I'm getting," said spokeswoman Taanta Gupta.
At the end of the day, Rogers Cable's defence of its "come in from the cold" offer can be summed up as wait for the next generous sales pitch. "We have acquisitions in the marketplace, different acquisition offers, and we are certainly very keen to get people who are former Directv viewers over to us," said Ms. Gupta.
The timing of DirecTV's move to disconnect unauthorized satellite users was no doubt deliberate and will certainly play into the hands of Rogers, Shaw Communications Inc. and BCE Inc.'s Bell ExpressVu. Besides The Sopranos, professional hockey and basketball playoffs have just begun. Rogers Cable said that Directv users appear most excited about getting their sports fix back as soon as possible.
Rogers was the first company to gear an offer to DirecTV users. Shaw and ExpressVu were unavailable for comment yesterday.
The effort to get people off the black market will likely be helped by the passage of Bill C-2, currently winding its way through Parliament, designed to shut down sellers of black market satellite systems and raise the fines for individuals receiving illegal foreign satellite signals to a maximum of $25,000.
The Canadian Cable Television Association, which yesterday said it viewed DirecTV's move as a positive, believes the way to get people off black market satellites is to make more U.S. channels such as HBO, ESPN and Showtime available to digital systems and approved satellite systems in Canada.
The cable lobby group, which had proposed Canadian carriage of U.S. sports, movie, news and children's channels that are prohibited by Canadian broadcast regulations because they compete with Canadian channels, was shot down by the CRTC last November.
© National Post 2004 |
Bet your just thrilled at this offer!~! |
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tl
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| Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2023 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| yeah i read this article and several others. typical rogers style... money money money money |
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tl
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| Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2023 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| P.S. not interested thank you very much |
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Bell-boy
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| But generous offer to 'dark side' could alienate subscribers |
Man! That line alone as the heading in the newpaper and I knew who they were refering to. Pretty scary!!
BTW- I didn't think you'd nibble on the offer. Shaw offers a win-back promo similar to this to get people back from Bell and Starchoice (thats right their own company!) if you trade in your satellite receiver(s) they give you a digital box(es). Nothing yet if they are going to follow Rogers footsteps in the above matter. |
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mikeha
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| Well I will never get Rogers digital until they force me, and the box is free. Analog cable forever! |
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super-user
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2023 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| yeah i read this article and several others. typical rogers style... money money money money |
True, but this is what almost every corporation is about is it not?
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tl
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superuser: true but it's a bit weird i guess to reward piracy.
on the Directv front, today Directv completed the shutdown of the period 3 card. the US networks and locals were phased out earlier this afternoon. anyone who has a Directv system is now watching nothing. there is still no hack available for the new generation cards. |
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Bell-boy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2023 12:28 pm Post subject: it's ALIVE!! ...well maybe... |
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Judge hands TV viewers a range of new choices
Foreign satellite ban nixed
Paul Vieira and Peter Kuitenbrouwer; with files from Shannon Kari
National Post
October 29, 2023
The law that bans Canadians from purchasing television signals from a foreign satellite provider violates the constitutional right to freedom of expression, a Quebec judge has ruled in what is being called a landmark decision.
The decision is a shot in the arm for Canadians who want to watch shows from such networks as HBO, ESPN and a host of ethnic programming not available through Canadian satellite or cable distributors.
Moreover, a media analyst said the ruling, handed down yesterday by Justice Danielle Cote of the Court of Quebec, could have "significant repercussions" on the domestic broadcasting system.
"It introduces an element of choice that's vastly different than we have today," said Kaan Yigit, president of media research firm Solutions Research Group.
"The ruling could torpedo the entire underpinning of the Canadian broadcasting system."
Currently, U.S. and foreign programming not available in Canada can be acquired through so-called "grey"-market satellite distributors -- although it is illegal under Canada's Radiocommunication Act. About one million Canadians risk fines and jail time to buy such programming.
But according to the judge, the freedom of expression -- as guaranteed in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms -- trumps any government argument to its right to control the television airwaves.
''One cannot contest the fact that the content of television programs, regardless of subject, belongs at the very core of free expression," she said in her judgment, written in French.
Alan Gold, a Toronto lawyer who has represented grey-market satellite dealers targeted by police, applauded the ruling. "This means Canadians can go ahead and subscribe and they will not be violating Canadian law," he said.
He added the ruling is precedent-setting because judges in other provinces would likely follow this decision "unless they were convinced it was wrong."
A spokeswoman for the Justice Minister, Irwin Cotler, said the department was reviewing the ruling. Meanwhile, a coalition representing domestic satellite and cable operators said they wanted to read Judge Cote's judgment before deciding what to do next. But legal and industry watchers expect the Quebec ruling to be appealed.
The Supreme Court of Canada ruled in April, 2002, that the Act prohibited the importing of foreign satellite signals, except through a distributor licensed in Canada -- such as BellExpressVu or Star Choice. While Canadian satellite providers offer a variety of programming, they do not carry popular U.S. or foreign networks such as Fox News, Italy's RAI International or ESPN.
However, the Supreme Court declined to decide if the ban on foreign signals violated the freedom of expression guarantee.
Judge Cote's ruling is the result of a challenge launched by Jacques D'Argy, a Drummondville, Que., resident who has battled the federal government for the past six years for the right to purchase TV programming from U.S. service DirecTV.
"Finally, Canadians consumers can make their own independent choice regarding which television channels they choose to view," said Mr. D'Argy, who defended himself without the help of a lawyer.
Judge Cote's ruling does not permit the purchase of so-called "smart cards" that allow people to steal satellite signals from foreign providers. But she said Ottawa has no justification to bar people from legitimately purchasing equipment or software from U.S. dealers.
Lawyers for the federal Attorney-General argued the government's power to control the broadcast airwaves is equivalent to the power to grant or revoke a driver's licence.
Judge Cote rejected this argument. "That is the difference between a privilege, to drive, and a fundamental right protected by the Constitution."
She added the rules set up by broadcast regulators to control what Canadians watch are flawed.
''The government did not offer any proof that the prohibition of the grey market [satellites] when it comes to individuals, is necessary to reach the goals of Canadian broadcasting policy," she wrote.
''The fact that people, otherwise law-abiding, are ready to break it in order to gain access to TV programs in their language says a lot about the degree of control of freedom of expression of these viewers.''
© National Post 2004 |
Me thinks I like this Judge! |
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bigdaddy
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2023 5:09 pm Post subject: Directway in memphis Indiana? |
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| Could someone tell me if directway is any count? I live wehere their is no cable or dsl access? I"m not a have downloader al i do is web surf and watch streaming media? Thanks for your help Joshua Hutchinson |
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